England's new tiered lockdown system has been in the making for months. How did we get here and what does it mean for the future?This podcast was brought to you thanks to the support of readers of The Times and The Sunday Times. Subscribe today and get one month free at: thetimes.co.uk/storiesofourtimes.Guest: Tom Newton Dunn, Times Radio presenter and chief political commentator. Host: Manveen Rana.Clips used: BBC, ITV, Sky News, RT, Times Radio.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.