On this episode of Humanize Me, Bart's friend Peter Montoya talks about his attempts to start a new community of secular ‘freethinkers' from the ground up, how he began with the idea of a real, physical intentional community and didn't get there, and ended up with a large online community to show for it instead. Bart asks Peter about his first attempts at secular community building, what he thinks didn’t work and why, and what the two of them believe to be the factors that set apart real communities from online ones, or from mere ‘events' or ‘meetings'.