Winners never quit! Today on the show, David Bazan & Damian continue a 20 year old backstage conversation about punk! Listen in as they discuss the journey that brought David to forming Pedro The Lion. From sneaking listens to Beatles’ records, to the life changing impact of Fugazi, to the seedy sides of the secular & non-secular music businesses: DON’T MISS THIS ONE!


Also, don’t miss Pedro The Lion’s fantastic new album: “Havasu.” Available on streaming services now & CD/LP/CS on Polyvinyl Records.


Also, grab a shirt for this podcast at turnedoutapunk.com.


Also Touched On:


Crucified


“Are you Dave?” “Are you Damien”: meeting Jurado


Hearing Fugazi for the first time and it changing everything


Drive Like Jehu 


True prophetic music


Straight Edge and religion


“Why are you dulling the blade?”


Gods and Gurus: The complex personal relationship with Ian MacKaye


Mike Knott


One Blind Pig


The crossover to the secular scene


The rough first tour


The rise of Tooth And Nail Records


Modest Mouse and Seasick Steve


& SO MUCH MORE!!!