We're going to need a 70th love song because The Magnetic Fields' Stephin Merritt and Claudia Gonson have come to TOAP! Listen in as the three have a lively conversation about: what is and what isn't punk and how it's all just BS anyway. DON'T MISS THIS ONE!!!Also, don't miss the 25th Anniversary edition of The Magnetic Fields' all-time classic "69 Love Songs", on Merge Records.Also, don't miss The Magnetic Fields on tour playing all 69 songs!Our Sponsors:* Check out Factor 75 and use my code toap50 for a great deal: https://www.factor75.com/Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/turned-out-a-punk/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy