What actually happens if the nation defaults on its debt? Planes fall
out of the sky, the streets run red with blood — OK, not literally. But
the reality could be economic catastrophe: "Market chaos, economic
chaos, all for absolutely no good reason," explains POLITICO’s Ben
White. After a week of debt-ceiling drama in D.C., Ben joins Playbook
co-author Eugene Daniels to unpack the partisan fights, doomsday
hypotheticals and one of the most absurd twists so far: a
trillion-dollar coin.

Eugene Daniels is a co-author of POLITICO Playbook.
Ben White is chief economic correspondent for POLITICO.
Carlos Mucha is an attorney who popularized the idea of minting a
trillion-dollar coin.
Adrienne Hurst is a producer for POLITICO audio.
Annie Rees is a producer for POLITICO audio.
Jenny Ament is senior producer for POLITICO audio.
Irene Noguchi is the executive producer of POLITICO audio.