Carlos Lozada is a columnist for The New York Times, and before that,
the longtime nonfiction book critic for The Washington Post. 

In 2019, Lozada won the Pulitzer Prize for criticism for a series of
pieces that judges described as “trenchant and searching reviews and
essays that joined warm emotion and careful analysis in examining a
broad range of books addressing government and the American experience.”

Well, he's now collected nearly a decade of such reviews in what he
calls “The Washington Book: How to Read Politics and Politicians,” which
was released this week. 

“If the art of politics can be to subtract meaning from language to
produce more and more words that say less and less,” he writes, “then it
is my purpose as a journalist to try to find that meaning and put it
back.”

He reads a lot of books by politicians. As he likes to say, he reads all
those books so that you don't have to. 

But he's found a way to use those books to say something interesting
about those same politicians. 

So what does Carlos's close reading of the likes of Barack Obama, Donald
Trump, Joe Biden, Mike Pence, Ron DeSantis and many others reveal about
our politics in 2024?

It turns out quite a lot. On this week’s episode of Deep Dive, host and
Playbook co-author Ryan Lizza sits down with Carlos in POLITICO's
offices to find out more.

Ryan Lizza is a Playbook co-author for POLITICO.
Carlos Lozada is an opinion columnist and co-host of the weekly “Matter
of Opinion” podcast for The New York Times. 
Kara Tabor is a producer for POLITICO audio. 
Alex Keeney is a senior producer for POLITICO audio.