This week Gary and Jonathan are joined by a long time friend of the podcast, Ken Liu, to discuss his new short story collection The Hidden Girl and Other Stories, approaching the end of his epic silkpunk fantasy series The Dandelion Dynasty, and how having good stories is more important to a society than having good institutions. Along the way, we talk about history, life, evolving art, and much, more more.

The Hidden Girl and Other Stories is out now and The Veiled Throne is out early next year. 

As always, we'd like to thank Ken for making time to join us and hope that you all enjoy the episode.  See you in two weeks with more!