Last weekend Gary traveled to Madison, Wisconsin - home of Wiscon - where in amongst fine dinners and even finer conversation he managed to find time to ask Eileen Gunn, Ellen Klages and Geoff Ryman to join us on the podcast to discuss the 20th anniversary of the Tiptree Awards, Wiscon, the value of short fiction, and other things. Many, many thanks to Eileen, Ellen and Geoff for joining us. We hope you enjoy it, as always, and will see you next week!