The National Lottery contract is up for grabs. While the results aren't scheduled to be announced until early 2022, the bids are in and being considered - and across the industry it seems that this is the closest competition yet with four major players in the running. How do lotteries, large and small, operate? And what obligations does the industry have towards customers who might be vulnerable? Evan Davis speaks to Camelot, who have been running The National Lottery since its inception 27 years ago, and to industry leaders, about the changing world of lotteries.

GUESTS
Matthew Risdale, Executive Director, Camelot
Richard Dixon, Managing Director, Sterling Lotteries
Tony Vick, Chair, The Lotteries Council

PRODUCERS
Tanya Beckett & Lucinda Borrell

SOUND
Rod Farquhar