Brookings Senior Fellow Vanda Felbab-Brown joins David Dollar to discuss the threat of biodiversity loss worldwide. Felbab-Brown explains the ominous trends in habitat and species loss—including the spread of illegal wildlife trafficking, the contributing role of human activity, and the compounding effects of climate change—and why the recent UN Biodiversity Conference in Kunming, China, was “underwhelming.” But, she says, trade that is well designed, monitored, and managed can give humans an incentive to preserve natural habitat. Show notes and transcript: https://brook.gs/3GfZQ10  Dollar & Sense is part of the Brookings Podcast Network. Send feedback to podcasts@brookings.edu, and follow us on Twitter at @policypodcasts.