Defector Media launched a year ago as a digital publishing experiment: What if the former staff of Deadspin built and owned their own site, fueled entirely by subscriptions? Now it looks like we have an answer: It’s working, really well. Editor in chief Tom Ley walks Recode’s Peter Kafka through Defector’s financials and argues that a site that runs on readers’ dollars instead of advertisers is more fun to work at and to read.

Featuring: Tom Ley (@ToLey88) Co-Founder and Editor-In-Chief of Defector Media
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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