Lisa Donovan started as a pioneer in the YouTube space and began quietly building an astrology app seven years ago. Fast forward to current times, her app, The Pattern, is a world wide success. Join us as we learn about the inception and growth of this seemingly magical piece of tech and listen in as Elizabeth and Steph get a little astro therapy in the process. Sponsored by: Nuuly : Nuuly.com code: Retrograde20 for $ Glow Recipe: glowrecipe.com code: GLOWRETRO for 15% off Savage x Fenty:  savage.com/retrograde - get 2 bras for $29 plus 50% off everything site wide Nutrafol: Nutrafol.com code: Retrograde for $15 Off Produced by Dear Media