In today's podcast, we hear about an NSA employee who was charged Friday with "willful retention of national defense information." This appears to be the individual whose computer was equipped with Kaspersky security software, and scanned either by that security product or by a backdoor, depending on whom you believe. A look back at the other three alleged NSA leakers: Snowden, Martin, and Winner. Johannes Ullrich from SANS and the ISC Stormcast podcast, talking about the Kaspersky data exfiltration accusations. The UK expresses official misgivings about Kaspersky products. More Uber executives depart the company.