Particularly if you're non-Black, it can be hard to know the "right way" to speak up about racism -- or what we can do at all, when the idea of dismantling racist system seems so overwhelming. So we're grateful for the time, guidance, and incredible insight of author, veteran broadcast journalist, and Black mom of two, Rene Syler. // Thank you so much for listening and subscribing. Your kind reviews really help support us. // Brought to you with the gracious sponsorship of Trade Coffee, whose coffee subscription gifts supports the best indie, local roasters around the country; and Soul Riders: Darkness Falling, the third book in the Soul Riders series of books for tweens and teens from Star Stable Entertainment.