Still on Summer Break (!), but couldn't resist getting back out there to interview in person.  This time, Pavel Cenkl, Director of Learning, Schumacher College is chatting to me about how experiential "Head, Hand, and Heart" learning is adapting to the digital age. Spoiler: international alumni is important!  This episode is for anyone grappling with how to push #edtech forward into a more community-based enabler of learning. We also talk about what a global distributed learning network looks like. “The undergraduate degree certificate is not the be-all and end-all of education. We’re exploding that.” Listen out for some ambient birds and insects as we record among the beautiful Dartington Hall estate, and find out about our new self-paced course for launching a podcast - out at the end of Summer 2021.