Welcome to this episode in our series produced by Professor Rose Luckin's EDUCATE Ventures Research, exploring 'Evidence-Based EdTech', and hosted on The Edtech Podcast This mini-series connects, combines, and highlights leading expertise and opinion from the worlds of EdTech, AI, Research, and Education, helping teachers, learners, and technology developers get to grips with ethical learning tools that are led by the evidence.  For this episode, Rose and Karine play host to Lord Jim Knight in the EdTech Podcast Zoom studio this week, and try to understand the arguments surrounding the establishment of Oak National Academy as an 'Arm's Length Body'. They dig into whether Oak Academy - an organisation providing an online classroom and resource hub and set up in the UK during the pandemic -  has shifted substantially from a well-intentioned response to Covid to something more challenging for the Edtech sector and potentially those it serves.  And finally, shout out to Rose, Karine and Jim for also digging into the world of ChatGPT and how we should start thinking of that within our classrooms and for our young people. Thank you to Learnosity for sponsoring this episode, and for supporting the Evidence-Based EdTech series on the EdTech Podcast.