This week on the podcast we are excited to be catching up with Jake Desyllas from The Voluntary Life podcast! We first interview Jake way back in 2016, when he was making the move from life in the U.K. to one of permanent travel. We talked about the ways that people can live a 'job free' life and travel more. Since 2016 a lot has happened! Jake has started a family and is based back in the U.K. We catch up on the past couple of years, what the transition to family travel has been like, and lessons learned!This episode is brought to you by Away. Visit Awaytravel.com/wanderers to find the perfect gear for your next trip!This episode is also brought to you by Skillshare! Visit Skillshare.com/wanderers to get two months free!