Matt Gulbransen is the President of Pine Grove Financial Group, an RIA based in Minnesota that manages over $550 million for 325 families. Despite the widely held belief that direct mail and educational seminars no longer work, Matt has continued to see positive marketing results from both over the past decade. In this episode, Matt shares how he uses in-person seminar events geared toward educating people about financial planning and then convincing them to work with him to navigate the many life transitions on the way to retirement. We also talk about how Pine Grove has pivoted from in-person seminars to webinars due to the pandemic, as well as how that has affected their overall conversions. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/225