Today, Kate and Lauren talk about her time as a fashion designer and her eventual desire to find a career that surprisingly or not, demanded even more creativity: software engineering. We chat about her decision-making process behind choosing backend over frontend development and the magic that it holds. She explains the many overlapping parallels between fashion design and engineering and we discuss vocational training programs versus more formal four-year programs. Kate implores listeners to do their research on the ethics of machine learning and artificial intelligence as she predicts what will be most important in the upcoming years in this ever-morphing and changing industry. This episode is not one to miss! Resources:Indeed.com Reddit programming challengesFind Kate Spitzer on all things social: @K8Spitzer We Belong Here Podcast: Follow Lauren on Twitter @LoLoCoding WeBelongPodcast.com websiteSubscribe on Apple Podcasts Subscribe on Spotify LoLoCoding.com