In episode 295 of the podcast I continue our race conversation with Michael Taylor and Jon Walton, 2 friends of TRS whose life’s work is to educate others and lift up people of color. Check it out. Shownotes: 4:20 Introduction to Michael Taylor and Jon Walton 7:30 The roots of racism and white supremacy 12:00 Michael and Jon's experiences with racism 20:30 Is the reactivity around these problems necessary? 25:50 What can white people do? 33:25 Why we judge other people based on the color of their skin 41:00 How can white people get involved in supporting anti-racism without white-centering? 45:10 How to engage in challenging conversations around racism? 1:01:50 Is it necessary for white people to apologize to Black people? 1:04:00 Advice to deal with race issues in interracial relationships 1:09:00 About police brutality and how the media portrays Black people 1:16:45 Final thoughts 1:21:55 Action step   Useful Links:   https://www.shatteringblackmalestereotypes.com/ https://www.jontwalton.com/