After talking a bit about insomnia, shaking hands with a local dog owner and dating in the pandemic, we turn to a voicemail asking Bart's opinion of anti-natalism, the philosophical position that ascribes a negative value to having babies.In response, Bart takes an approach which doesn't attempt to engage too much with the rational arguments of anti-natalism, saying that we should have an anti-natalist on the podcast to talk to. Instead, we talk about the values of humanity being 'baked in', one of them being reproduction, and the fact that we tend to value contradicting things, leading to optimal ethics and situational ethics.—Follow this podcast to stay up-to-date:Twitter: @HumanizeMePodInstagram: @HumanizeMePodcastFacebook Group: Facebook.com/Groups/1772151613053280The reason this podcast exists, even in trying economic times, is because some people support it monthly at Patreon.com/HumanizeMe. Please consider supporting us there for the cost of a cup of coffee once a month and get extra content for it. That amount won’t likely matter much to you, even now, but it will mean everything to us! (Includes access to the audio story of Bart’s recent psychedelic experience, the bonus podcast, ‘Why It Matters’ where we discuss the show and read listener feedback, and the ‘Campolo Sessions‘, long-form conversations between Bart and his dad Tony Campolo.)Humanize Me is hosted by Bart Campolo and is produced by John Wright at JuxMedia.com.