How are the most successful enterprise products designed? Is the process any different from consumer applications? Our guest today is Rakesh Patwari, director of product design at Salesforce and a design educator. You'll learn how the enterprise ecosystem works, how to approach complex products with the right mindset, and how to pursue a career in this field.Download the MP3 audio file: right-click here and choose Save As.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Play Music.Show NotesSalesforce — Rakesh's current place of workWhat is Jobs to be Done (JTBD)? — an article by Alan KlementChesterton's fence — a principle that reforms should not be made until you understand the reasoning behind the existing state of affairsGall's law — states that all working complex systems evolved from simpler systemsEpisode 80: Design Systems Engineering with James StoneRakesh's websiteFollow Rakesh on LinkedInFollow Rakesh on Twitter: @rakeshpatwariToday's SponsorThis episode is brought to you by Nusii — proposal software made easy for creatives. Do you get stressed every time a new lead hits your inbox? Nusii was built to help you create, send, track and manage your proposals in one easy-to-use app. Forget about searching for your best content, and following up with clients to sign on the dotted line. Visit nusii.com/uibreakfast for a 30% discount on your first 3 months.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here. Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here's how.