“When we see a woman who stepped out of line, we want to put her back in her cage,” says Glennon Doyle. The New York Times–bestselling author of Untamed and founder of Together Rising joins Elise Loehnen for a conversation about the moment she decided to stop abandoning herself. Like many of us, Doyle spent the majority of her life feeling that she had to be “good.” And then she quit pleasing so that she could be free. Today, Doyle shares a recipe for bravery and a new definition: Being brave is not being afraid and just doing the daring thing anyway, says Doyle. Being brave cannot be judged by anyone else. It can only be felt by you. “Being brave,” says Doyle, “ is hearing your inner voice on the inside and speaking it on the outside.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)