You are hedging your bets, hoping that someone else get's breached first, don't believe it's as big as an issue as people make out, keeping your insurance companies happy, telling your board "we're ok" and, basically avoiding looking in the mirror. We interview Chris Roberts to talk about bridging the gap in the learning process that companies only follow when they are breached. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/scw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://wiki.securityweekly.com/SCWEpisode16