Steph and Elizabeth cozy up in a NYC studio for an inspired conversation with accomplished comic, writer, radio personality, and founder of Abortion AF, Lizz Winstead (@lizzwinstead). Lizz educates on the real red tape around accessibility to abortion and womens healthcare and lays down the framework for what we can do to help. Roses and Thorns is more like a giant shiny apple as the girls wax grateful on all things NYC. Special shout out to Gotham Podcast Studio, Sirius XM, and Caroline’s on Broadway for making all our interview dreams come true.  Thank you to our partners:    Buffy Comforters www.buffy.co  code: retrograde Aurate www.auratenewyork.com/retrograde  code: retrograde  Native Deodorant https://www.nativecos.com/ code: tsr