Lierre spent twenty years refining and restricting her diet in search of better health -- but her health was getting worse, not better. Finally, a doctor told her she'd die if she didn't eat animal-derived foods. This led to a major shift in perspective and a deeply controversial book: The Vegetarian Myth: Food, Justice, and Sustainability  This episode sponsored by Lelo. Use discount code "chrisryan" at checkout for 15% off full price items. Find me on Instagram or Twitter. Please consider supporting this podcast on Patreon. This Amazon affiliate link kicks a few bucks back my way. Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “River," by Ibeyi; “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.