The return of reality television's Old Man River, Survivor, prompts a discussion of the state of Reality TV, and in particular, what ingredients go into making a good reality competition series. From there, Joe wonders if the recent plague of Bro Shows is worse than jazz, and Tara tries not to give up while presenting America's Next Top Model's "The Girl Who Pushes Tyra Over The Edge" for Canon consideration, lest Dave, Sarah, and Joe holler at her. WE WERE ALL ROOTING FOR HER! Then Tara and Sarah give us winners and losers, and a pseudonymous Game Time that somehow does not include Joey Tribbiani's "Ken Adams." Keep it real and enjoy!  For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy