In this conversation with John Michael Greer we discuss the "apocalypse meme." He is the author of Apocalypse Not: Everything You Know About 2012, Nostradamus, and the Rapture Is Wrong. Why is that human beings predict and even seem to desire an "end"?  Join us for this fascinating discussion of apocalyptic movements in history.

Almost since the beginning of civilization, an insatiable willingness to believe has driven people to dream of the apocalypse that will replace the world they've got with the one they've always wanted.  All of these predictions have one thing in common:  everyone of them has been wrong.

John Michael Greer talks to me about the "apocalypse meme" as well as some real things to concern ourselves about such as how we are managing our stewardship of Earth.