This week it is my extra special pleasure to be speaking with one of the co-originators of permaculture itself, David Holmgren. David is an author, educator, designer, activist and permaculturalist (obviously) with many decades experience. He joins us today to talk about his fantastic new project and accompanying book, Retrosuburbia, the details for which you will find in the show notes. Extremely good times. Show Notes Retrosuburbia website. Buy the Book: US, UK, AU Retrosuburbia on Facebook: Page, Group. Holmgren Design on Twitter. Note: There is extra material for this episode at the post page on runesoup.com