Dr. Karla Turner and her husband Casey Turner talk about their abduction experiences and human surveillance. This presentation is  from 1993. Her work is extremely important to know about and is rarely discussed by mainstream ufologists. She thanks Bob at the beginning of her talk, and that would be Bob Brown who hosted the earlier incarnation of the IUFOC. The podium has "Showboat" logo on it, meaning the conference was in Las Vegas. The youtube video is linked HERE.I have been working to transfer the many youtube presentations by Dr. Karla Turner over to an MP3 audio format. This is a preferable  way to listen to her strong voice. The audio quality is somewhat poor, but the content is riveting. Her husband Elton Casey takes the podium at about the 35:00 time count.