Spencer Greening (La’goot) is an indigenous scholar from the Tsimshian peoples of the Pacific Northwest Coast. His current doctoral research examines the relationship between traditional ecological knowledge, indigenous legal systems and indigenous management of ecosystems in a current context. His work has lead him to be honoured as a Trudeau Scholar, one of Canada’s top academic awards. I met with Spencer to discuss government relations and the complexities of indigenous peoples in Canada today. References mentioned in the episode: Pound net article: http://www.themeateater.com/conservation/wildlife-management/fish-traps-the-pound-net-revival   Some articles/research mentioned in the interview: https://theconversation.com/its-taken-thousands-of-years-but-western-science-is-finally-catching-up-to-traditional-knowledge-90291  https://indigenousfoundations.arts.ubc.ca/royal_proclamation_1763/ https://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/clam-gardens-have-been-cultivated-by-indigenous-people-for-millennia-1.5047148?fbclid=IwAR3PI7uZqge_e08tkABcxGdAsBzLx4CenILc72L8I0kVCqadsMw4TQEc0ko https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/clam-gardens-gulf-islands-1.3949384  https://clamgarden.com/ https://canadianarchaeology.com/comox/Comox_Harbour.html Books mentioned in the episode: Hunters and Bureaucrats : Power, Knowledge, and Aboriginal-State Relations in the Southwest Yukon by Paul Nadasdy Traditional Ecological Knowledge : Learning from Indigenous Practices for Environmental Sustainability ed. by Melissa Nelson and Dan Shilling Ecologies of the Heart: Emotion, Belief, and the Environment by Eugene Anderson