Josh explains that to survive the next century or two – to navigate our existential threats – all of us will have to become informed and involved. It will take a movement that gets behind science done right to make it through the Great Filter. (Original score by Point Lobo.) Interviewees: Toby Ord, Oxford University philosopher; Sebastian Farquahar, Oxford University philosopher Learn more about your ad-choices at https://news.iheart.com/podcast-advertisers