Writer Jen Doll on Betty Smith's A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, feeling like an outsider, and finding the courage to go for what you want. To learn more about the books we've mentioned in this week's episode, check out The Outsiders by S.E. Hinton, Save the Date and Unclaimed Baggage by Jen Doll, Morris' Disappearing Bag by Rosemary Wells, the Treehorn series by Florence Parry Heide and Edward Gorey, and A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith. You can find transcripts of this episode and past ones on LitHub. This episode is sponsored by Under My Skin by Lisa Unger and the podcast Unknown History. And please fill out our survey at bit.ly/butthatsanothersurvey.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices