Steph interviews Karen Kleiman, MSW about her #speakthesecret campaign which helps new moms validate their feelings, share their fears, and start feeling better. Over 90% of new mothers will have scary, intrusive thoughts about their baby and themselves, but many are afraid to tell anyone. Moms are left feeling confused, frustrated, or scared about what these thoughts mean. On this show we reduce the shame and stigma and encourage moms to find a safe place to express themselves. This interview is a must listen for all new mamas and we hope you share this with all the new mamas in your life. We’d like to say a special thank you to May’s Podcast Partner: Coconu, an organic coconut-based lubricant. Get 15% off your order on their website with the code WHOLEMAMAS. Enjoy the listen! You can find us on iTunes, Stitcher or Spotify. We’d love to hear your thoughts on Instagram or Facebook. Topics Discussed: How common “scary thoughts” are for new moms How shame and stigma prevents new moms from getting help How to determine normal postpartum experiences from postpartum mental health concerns Support for postpartum partners   How to support a friend or loved one postpartum Show Notes: Good Moms Have Scary Thoughts book Karen’s Postpartum Stress Center The HMHB Weekly Email Series Whole Mamas Pregnancy Program Nourish Kids Medicine Kit and Ebook Dr. Elana’s Medical Center: Nourish Medical Center Follow Steph and Elana on Instagram Whole Mamas Podcast Archive Karen Kleiman, MSW is well known as an international expert on postpartum depression. Her work has been featured on the Internet and within the mental health community for decades. In 1988, Karen founded The Postpartum Stress Center, LLC, a treatment and training facility for prenatal and postpartum depression/anxiety disorders where she treats individuals and couples experiencing perinatal mood & anxiety disorders.   Kleiman is also the author of several books on postpartum depression, including This Isn't What I Expected: Overcoming Postpartum Depression (1994), The Postpartum Husband: Practical Solutions for Living with Postpartum Depression (2001), What Am I Thinking? Having a Baby After Postpartum Depression (2005), Therapy and the Postpartum Woman (2009), Dropping the Baby and Other Scary Thoughts (2010), and Good Moms Have Scary Thoughts (2019). Please remember that the views and ideas presented on this podcast are for informational purposes only.  All information, content, and material presented on this podcast is for informational purposes and not intended to serve as a substitute for the consultation, diagnosis, and/or medical treatment of a qualified physician or healthcare provider. Consult with your qualified physician or healthcare provider before starting any diet, supplement regimen, or to determine the appropriateness of the information shared on this podcast, or if you have any questions regarding pregnancy or your prenatal treatment plan.