On Cathy’s final episode, hosts Felix Salmon of Fusion, Cathy O’Neil, author of Weapons of Math Destruction, and Slate Moneybox columnist Jordan Weissmann, chat with Derek Thompson, author of Hit Makers: The Science of Popularity in an Age of Distraction. They decipher what it takes to produce a hit in three major creative industries, including:Film and televisionBook publishingMusicCheck out other Panoply podcasts at itunes.com/panoply.Email: slatemoney@slate.comTwitter: @felixsalmon, @mathbabedotorg, @JHWeissmann, @DKThompProduction by Zachary DinersteinSlate Money is brought to you by Rocket Mortgage from Quicken Loans. When it comes to the big decision of choosing a mortgage lender, work with one that has your best interests in mind. Use Rocket Mortgage for a transparent, trustworthy home loan process that’s completely online at QuickenLoans.com/slatemoney. And by ZipRecruiter. Post your job listing to all the top job sites with a single click. Try it for free by going to ZipRecruiter.com/money. And by the hit SHOWTIME Original Series BILLIONS, starring Emmy winners Damian Lewis and Paul Giamatti. BILLIONS returns Sunday, February 19th with new episodes every Sunday at 10/9 central. Download the SHOWTIME app now to start your free trial.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices