And Jesus Said

By Henry Michaelson

What if it were possible to have a conversation with Jesus and ask him anything you could think of? Just suppose it were possible, and you had the opportunity! What would you think of to ask? A man, who calls himself a “closet” psychic had such an opportunity. During his regular meditation while speaking with his spirit guides Jesus put in an appearance and joined in the conversation. He had a chance to ask the questions many of us have always wondered about but were too discouraged by the Church. They would consider such an idea as heresy. * Are you a savior? * Did you perform miracles? * Why were you crucified? * Did you come back to life after your crucifixion? * What do you think of the church and the religion that has been built around you? * What is prayer? * Is reincarnation real? * What is the higher Self? He found the answers to these questions and much more. Is the book accurate or does it contain inaccuracies? Jesus answered, “My statement to you and to this world is that it does not matter. In reality, you cannot prove or disprove any of it. You can only believe what you choose to believe while others choose to believe what they wish. It is for you to grow to a place to be comfortable with your world as it is and with yourself as you are.” So, read and ask questions with an open mind.

• Language: English
• Publisher: Ozark Mountain Publishing, Inc.
• Release date: Nov 11, 2021
• ISBN: 9781005542603

Henry Michaelson

Henry Michaelson has early childhood memories of knowing something was going to happen before it did. Just everyday events like who his family would go visit after church on Sunday night or that a friend would forget to bring his bat to a pickup baseball game. Unknown to him, he was having early manifestations of precognition and clairvoyance. He never shared these experiences with anyone. He sensed no one would understand and he’d face ridicule. Therefore, he grew up feeling like he had a secret he couldn’t share with anyone.During his formal education, Henry Michaelson searched for explanations of his experiences in religion, philosophy, theology, psychology, and metaphysics. However, none of these sources provided the answers and insight he sought.It was not until Henry Michaelson was 32 years old that he met someone who understood him. He trusted her with his secret. She helped him understand his experiences and taught him methodologies to develop and expand his abilities.Since then, Henry Michaelson has sporadically conducted psychic readings and channeled for private clients. However, he has learned that most people are uncomfortable knowing someone with his skills. As a result, Henry remains secretive about his gifts.The publication of this book is a departure from that habit of non-disclosure. However, that speaks to the content of the book and the unusual agreement that brought it about.Henry Michaelson holds a Bachelor of Science in Sociology and a Masters in Theology. He retired from a career in logistics and technology. He lives with his wife in the southern United States.Henry made his transition on October 27, 2017. He will be missed.

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Table of Contents

Author’s Preface

Introduction

Chapter 1

Why did you live a life as Jesus?

Chapter 2

Are you the Savior?

Chapter 3

Are you the King?

Chapter 4

Did you perform what we call miracles?

Chapter 5

Why were you crucified?

Chapter 6

Did you come back to life after your crucifixion?

Chapter 7

What do you think of religion and the church?

Chapter 8

Are humans divine?

Chapter 9

Why do we feel disconnected from The Source?

Chapter 10

What is prayer?

Chapter 11

What do you mean by energy?

Chapter 12

Can we communicate with spirits that are not in human bodies?

Chapter 13

What is karma?

Chapter 14

Is reincarnation real?

Chapter 15

What is a dimension?

Chapter 16

A few last words

Chapter 17

Epilogue

Author’s Preface

What is this book about?

This book is a series of question and answer sessions I had with the entity that was Jesus of Nazareth, son of Joseph and Mary, in his last incarnation on earth.

How do you communicate with Jesus?

I interact with Jesus through the process of my regular meditations.

What do you mean by meditation?

I use meditation as a word to describe a process I practice and the experiences I have during that process. I admit that I do not have a name or categorization for what I do, so I use meditation as a terminology hook on which to hang my explanation. I have practiced some form of Christian meditation, mind control, self-hypnosis, and various forms of meditation from the Buddhist tradition for over thirty years. My meditation is now bits and pieces from many of those traditions, as well as a few things I have created along the way. My focus is on practice and experience, not defining and categorizing the process.

Some may not consider what I do as a form of meditation. They may be correct. For insight into various forms of meditation, I recommend Lawrence LeShan’s little book, How to Meditate. LeShan addresses the various forms of meditation in Chapter 5 of his book. He uses the phrase paths of meditation and groups meditative practices as paths negotiated through the intellect, emotions, body, and action.

What sparked your initial interest in meditation?

Some early childhood experiences and my resulting curiosity as a young man led to my interest in meditation. I have early memories, some of which occurred before beginning school, of paranormal experiences. These early experiences were limited to precognition and clairvoyance. Of course, I did not know what I was experiencing. Additionally, I did not have names, definitions, or points of reference for my experiences. I kept these experiences to myself because my parents believed children were to be seen and not heard. Moreover, I thought that my parents and other adults would not understand and would disapprove.

During my university years in the 60s, books and experiences involving the paranormal captivated my attention. I also experimented with some of the mystic and meditative practices of evangelical Christian groups. By then, I knew what to call my experiences, but I did not have the maturity to understand them. Moreover, these experiences did not happen every day. There was no overwhelming power taking over my life. Since I lived in a family that did not believe in clairvoyance and precognition, I continued to keep my experiences a secret.

I was thirty-two years old when I finally shared my secret with the woman who would become my teacher. It happened this way. My next-door neighbor had a mild heart attack. His cardiologist recommended he take classes from a woman who taught self-relaxation techniques. When my neighbor described the techniques he had learned, I sensed this woman taught more than relaxation. I knew she would fully understand me and broaden my understanding of myself.

My neighbor gave me her name and phone number, and I called her. When I introduced myself, I told her I wanted to be her student. I even had five friends who also wanted to take the class. However, the woman said she was devoting all her time to writing and had retired from teaching. I pursued her for several weeks until she finally agreed to teach what would be her last class.

My only formal instruction in the meditative arts began with this woman in 1976. I owe her a debt of gratitude I can never repay. Over two long weekends, she introduced me to a structured approach to meditation and conscious use of the mind. She helped me understand my episodes of precognition and clairvoyance. She taught me how to explore and expand the use of my abilities. Her instruction included methodologies by which to create and customize an individual journey of mind and psychic exploration. I have been on that journey ever since.

How did your meditation lead to interaction with Jesus?

As the years passed, disincarnate entities sometimes visited me during meditation. These entities did not have a physical form. Rather, I had a visual experience of them in my mind as light and frequency accompanied by emotions. I had dialogue with them in a variety of ways, including visualizations and telepathy with an internal auditory component.

Most of these entities visited me only once. Some visited my meditative sessions a few times, and I never experienced them, again.

Some are regulars and have visited off and on for years. I now refer to the small group of regulars as my guys. (Guys is not gender specific in this context.) I am familiar with the term guides or spirit guides. Are my guys the same as spirit guides? I do not know, but I am comfortable with anyone who prefers to make that substitution of terms. As a point of distinction, if spirit guides are disincarnate entities that act as a guide or protector, my guys do not perform that function.

My guys do several things. They are sometimes just present during my meditation as if they are doing the same thing or similar things. It is much like what people experience if they are at a string quartet recital attended by a small group of people. Suppose a few of your friends enter the recital chamber after the recital begins. You notice their entry, and you acknowledge each other. However, the acknowledgment likely is no more than a look, a slight nod of the head, or a brief smile. Sometimes when my guys are present, the exchange between us is like that. From my frame of reference, we are sharing a time of meditation.

Then, there are those times when my guys interact with me. The interaction includes the exchange of energy and information. On these occasions, the exchange runs the gamut from quiet discussion with everyone taking turns to lively interchange with different attendees communicating simultaneously.

One example of how my guys participate in my meditative sessions is their appearance during psychic readings. During part of 1986 and 1987, I presented myself to the public as a psychic reader. My guys often participated in the readings by providing insight and information. However, they eventually communicated that I did not need them to access information. They insisted that I could function as a person and as a psychic without them. They encouraged my self-reliance and self-confidence.

As an aside, I did not pursue a permanent career as a psychic. While I had a moderate number of clients and even traveled to other cities performing psychic readings, I simply could not make enough income to support myself. Additionally, some clients became dependent on my insights, and I strongly discouraged that dependency. Therefore, I continued to pursue a career in logistics and, eventually, software sales and installation. To this day, I do not publicize my psychic gifts. My experience has taught me that most people are not comfortable with a friend or family member who is psychic. Additionally, being a psychic is not an employee qualification that most corporations seek or advertise to their customers. Therefore, I have been a closet psychic all my life.

I meditate and my guys are present or not as they please. On one occasion in 1986, I was meditating at home when an entity with an unusually distinctive and brighter light and frequency emission visited me. My guys were also present at the time. While they did not necessarily defer to this new visitor, I perceived that they knew and greatly respected this new comer. The new entity was always a silent observer. After a few visits, I asked this entity for a designation I could assign it, if for no other reason than to function as a greeting. The entity told me that it was Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph and Mary, in its last incarnation.

Over time, Jesus attended more of my meditation sessions. During one of those visits, he indicated an interest in providing content for a book. Jesus asked me to serve as a channel and editor. He wanted my commitment to complete a book and find a publisher. I obviously accepted. He also told me that a person named Bobby would help with the book.

How did you interact with Jesus to create this book?

In 1974, I met a man named Bobby Sanderson. We had some infrequent contact at a church we both attended at the time. I soon moved out of town and lost contact with Bobby. In 1980, my business interests brought me back to where Bobby and I previously lived. Neither Bobby nor I remember under what circumstances we later reconnected, but by early 1987, we were renewing our old friendship. By the time I accepted Jesus’ book proposal, Bobby was the only Bobby I knew. I remembered Jesus’ comments about someone named Bobby. Therefore, I took a chance and trusted Bobby with my story about writing a book with Jesus. I asked Bobby if he would help me with the project. To my surprise and relief, he shared an interest in metaphysics and spirituality and agreed to assist me.

This was during a time in my life when I was unemployed for about a year. Unemployment gave me the freedom to experience multiple channeling sessions during a week. Bobby’s schedule was flexible and made it possible for him to participate several times a week.

Bobby would come to my house with a tape recorder, paper, and pen. I would enter a meditative state and mentally request Jesus’ presence. Once Jesus acknowledged his presence, Bobby started taping and asked Jesus for initial comments about the subjects he (Jesus) had previously outlined for the book. After those introductory comments, Bobby continued with questions to which Jesus responded. One channeling session about a subject led to others. When all our questions were asked and Jesus indicated his approval, we moved to another subject. Each channeling session usually lasted about two to three hours.

After each session, I took the tapes to a stenographer who transcribed them. She produced a printed copy of each session and put the transcriptions on floppy disks. Thus, we collected the content for this book in question and answer format.

When did you complete the book?

We completed the initial draft by mid-1987. I edited the book and submitted it to five or six New Age publishers, but none of them showed any interest in the material. I found work and began to focus on my career. The book lay dormant in a box in my garage or attic for nineteen years. In 2008, a year after my retirement, I opened the box to complete my agreement with Jesus. I had a neighbor who had an old computer that had a floppy drive. I was able to transfer the content on the floppy drives to a thumb drive and eventually into Microsoft Word. Then, editing began.

When I channel, I have several goals. One is to empty myself of personal impressions, opinions, and attitudes. I attempt to be absent while simultaneously being incredibly present. I attempt to transfer all my energy into being a spirit while maintaining a physical presence.

Another goal is to internally listen, see, and sense. I am listening to