David Martin: [Ian] Smith said he wanted an assurance from you that you would no longer support the Zimbabwe liberation movements. What is your reply to this?
Kenneth Kaunda: We in Zambia have always said that if Mr Smith wants our co-operation let him go to the people of Rhodesia as a whole on the basis of one man one vote and if he is elected on that basis, we are quite happy to welcome him here in Zambia because to us his colour is immaterial. It is the system which he is using there which is wrong and we can never find ourselves co-operating with that type of system. We can’t. It is a matter of deep-rooted principle.
I have put it in another way. I have said look, if we found a small Black minority oppressing a white majority anywhere in the world, we would support the white