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    HILLS, thrills and BELLYACHES

    Sep 27, 2021 6 minutes

    Ed Byrne: Where are you right now?

    Richard Cotterill: I’m sat in the Job Centre in lovely Newton Abbot. Walking has been my passion for years and I discovered your Ed Venturing podcasts. It’s interesting when people are out walking. They interact differently.

    EB: Part of it is the fact you’re not looking at each other. I know that sounds strange but conversation is slightly different.

    RC: People consider whatever the subject they’re talking about a lot more.

    EB: When I take people out walking who haven’t done it before, I always find they can go a lot further than they thought they could.

    I used to work as a trekking guide. If you said, “Right, we’re going to do a 10-mile walk,” a lot of people, if they’ve never done it, they’re already anxious before they start. If you can distract them and get them talking and moving at the same time you soon start eating up the

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