“WHEN I SAW RONALDO’S HAIR I WAS SO PISSED OFF! YOU CAN’T PLAY WITH THAT”
You’ve been a manager for 37 years – what keeps you motivated?
I like what I do. I’d always dreamed of being a footballer, but my parents never accepted the idea. I kept insisting, and at 18 I started playing. I’ve worked in football until today, at the age of 70. It makes me happy. Every day is a new day and it renews my spirit.
You’re still winning, too - 22 years after you lifted the Brazilian league title with Gremio, you won it with Palmeiras last season.
That was really cool. It’s always spectacular to win a Brazilian championship.
