In this conversation, Trevor and Andy Home discuss the current state of the metals markets, with a focus on copper and tin. They explore the recent price action and excitement in the metals markets, as well as the increased interest from mainstream media. They also delve into the dynamics of the tin market, including supply challenges and geopolitical issues. Additionally, they analyze the tightness in the copper market, particularly in terms of raw materials and refined metal supply. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the price breakout in copper and the potential for a sustained rally.

The conversation covers various topics related to the metals market, including China's smelting capacity, the impact of geopolitical tensions on Chinese smelting, the role of interest rates and inflation expectations in driving metals prices, the demand for metals in China and India, the increase in lead supply, the potential for a new aluminum smelter in the US, and the impact of sanctions on Russian aluminum.

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