President Macron of France says Europe should prepare to defend Ukraine with troops if Russia makes significant advances. Former NATO planner Philip Ingram gives us his analysis. Plus, former British intelligence officer Nigel Ingster reveals the spy techniques increasingly used by China.The World in 10 is the Times' daily podcast dedicated to global security. Expert analysis of war, diplomatic relations and cyber security from The Times' foreign correspondents and military specialists. Watch more: https://www.youtube.com/@ListenToTimesRadio Read more: thetimes.co.uk Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.