In this episode the Chappells recount spending Christmas in Bethlehem, and what they learned from shepherds and songs and stars in the place where it happened. These things lead to a discussion of how these things apply in our lives and how we can better understand Christ.We are grateful for our sponsor, Lisa Spice, and our editor, Alexia Muhlestein, and for Rich Nicholls, who composed and plays the music for the podcast.