In the early days of COVID-19, host Jake Clark sat down with Professor Heather McLeod-Kilmurray to talk about this troubled moment for the law, with the shakeups of climate change, global pandemic, and civil unrest. Her insights draw from studies in food law, sustainable administration, and ecofeminism to explain where we stand, and hopefully where we're going, while safeguarding against burnout and paralysis. As the climate becomes an unavoidable focus in law and life, her observations detail a way forward that values respect for both ecology and humanity.