In this conversation, the participants discuss their thoughts on various book series, including A Song of Ice and Fire and The Second Apocalypse. They share their opinions on the unfinished status of these series and the impact of the TV adaptations. They also discuss the writing style of George R.R. Martin and R. Scott Bakker, highlighting their strengths in world-building, dialogue, and thematic depth. The conversation touches on the challenges of creating the next big cultural phenomenon and the importance of organic storytelling. The conversation covers various topics including the TV show 'The Expanse', the influence of other works on storytelling, and the magic of certain books and games. The hosts discuss their experiences with different series and how they compare to each other. They also explore the concept of comparing works to others and the impact it has on the audience's expectations. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the influences and inspirations of the hosts in their own writing. The conversation in this part revolves around the process of starting and continuing writing, the challenges faced by authors, and the role of beta readers. The participants discuss their motivations for writing, the difficulty of finding time to write, and the addictive nature of creativity. They also touch on the length of time it takes to write a book and the pressure to meet deadlines. The conversation explores the role of publishers and the challenges of marketing and getting books into bookstores. The participants also discuss the importance of receiving feedback and criticism from beta readers and the different approaches to beta reading. In this final part of the conversation, the participants discuss the books they would love to read before they are published. They mention authors like Donna Tartt, Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell, Stephen King, and George R.R. Martin. They also share their thoughts on the length and pacing of certain books, including those by Joe Abercrombie and Patrick Rothfuss. The conversation concludes with each participant sharing the last book they finished reading.Find Susana:  https://susanaimaginario.com/about.htmlFind Thomas J. Devens: https://fallofemros.blogspot.com/Support the showPageChewing.comPAGECHEWING: Comics & Manga PodcastFilm Chewing PodcastBuy me a coffeeLinktreeLogo by The GlimmerTwin Art HouseJoin Riverside.fm