On this episode we sit down with Chris Palmer and Gabe Rivera.  Both Chris and Gabe have severed on full time SWAT teams and have years of experience. Chris Palmer:1999 to 2001 Patrol officer.  2001 to 2006 N.E.T. Neighborhood Enforcement Team. We were a directed enforcement position within the precincts. Basically we would be tasked by the commander to solve problems brought to them by the community. This is where I got plain clothes and U/C experience. We would work informants, buy dope, write warrants, surveillance and locating subjects with felony warrants, a bit of everything without responsibility for the radio.   2006 to 2019 (SWAT) Full time unit with 5 ten man squads now 4 ten man squads. Barricades, Violent subjects arrested, Present for several (20?) OIS and fired my weapons in 4 of them.  At last count I've had 56 rounds fired at me and been hit once. Most of those have been through the walls on HRT entries. I've never shot anyone during an HR. Mine were all arrests/ barricades2017- present   Contract breaching instructor for Forced Entry Tactical Training. 2019 - present Full time firearms training detail. Gabe Rivera:15+ years as a Law Enforcement Officer with 12 years assigned to departments Special Weapons & Tactics (SWAT) team. Has held roles on the team such as Team Leader (TL), Assistant Team Leader (ATL), Sniper, JHAT Member, Maritime Team Member, Firearms Instructor, and Tactics Instructor. Have obtain thousands of hours training with some of the best firearms and tactical instructors in the world. Holds a Bachelor of Arts (B.A.) focused in Criminal Justice and Corrections from California State University-Fullerton.