Langhorne Slim on getting out of the mind and into the heart, vices as a muse, and mountain tops.

Rissi Palmer on the year of no, speaking for the voiceless, and making the appointment.: Rissi Palmer signed her first record deal at 19, with her debut in 2007 she was the first black woman to make the country music charts in over 2 decades, she has toured with the likes of Taylor Swift, and the Eagles, appeared on Oprah, Good Morning America, at the White House, the Grand Ole Opry, and Lincoln Center, is the host of Apple Music's 'Color Me Country', and the director of the Color Me Country Artist Grant Fund. We talk about one of our favorite topics - saying no, prioritizing self care, speaking for those people who cannot speak for themselves, the music business as a meritocracy (ahem) and a whole lot more. by The Other 22 Hours

46 min listen

Ana Egge on co-writing with your dreams, meditation practice, and skateboarding.: Ana Egge - who Lucinda Williams calls 'the folk music Nina Simone' - has released 13+ records, starting with her first in 1994, and including some produced by Steve Earle, is a luthier, and has toured with John Prine, Shawn Colvin, Jimmie Dale Gilmore, Ron Sexmith, Lucinda, and Iris Dement amongst others. In one of our more intriguingly esoteric conversations, we talk a lot about meditation practice and how that influences your creativity and approach to your career as a whole, as well as how Ana stumbled across her incredible practice of co-writing with her own dreams! by The Other 22 Hours

41 min listen

Larry Campbell & Teresa Williams on finding the joy, balance, and the Tao of Levon.: Larry Campbell and Teresa Williams have released 4 albums as a duo, and were members of Levon Helm's band for over a decade, but the married couple also have a long musical history prior to becoming a formal duo. In addition to producing Levon's later career Grammy-winning records, Larry has played with Bob Dylan, Paul Simon, Elvis Costello, Emmylou Harris, Judy Collins, Willie Nelson, Shania Twain, and Tracy Chapman, to name a few. We have a great conversation about being in it for the joy of getting to make music, balancing being members of large-scale tours (including a great story of them on the road with Jackson Browne), prioritizing self care vs being a workaholic, and the Tao of Levon. by The Other 22 Hours

51 min listen

Morgxn on when not to quit, transparency, and farming.: Morgxn is an indie-pop artist who has had songs on the top 10 Billboard alternative charts, that Billie Eilish has personally named as inspiration, he has songs featuring Sara Bareilles, and has performed at Lollapalooza, Bumbershoot, on Jimmy Kimmel and more. We talk with Morgxn about how the music industry doesn't seem to actively support artists, the work it can take to break through imposter syndrome and identify as an artist, when not to quit, having enough seats at the table for everyone, farming, and a whole lot more. by The Other 22 Hours

49 min listen

Steve Poltz on life as a treasure hunt, creating your own scene, and getting pinned on the mat.: Over the last 30+ years Steve Poltz has released more than 14 records both solo and with his 90's band The Rugburns, on his own label as well as Mercury Records, as well as a longtime collaboration with Jewell including co-writing her hit "You Were Meant for Me." We talk with Steve about everything from having a stroke on stage, mid-song (and continuing to sing the song), all the way to viewing life as a treasure hunt, slaying the dragons, his infectious positivity and optimism, and getting pinned to the mat. by The Other 22 Hours

78 min listen

Sierra Hull on nature vs nurture, disappointment as fuel, and tour bus cafes.: Sierra Hull is the definition of child prodigy - she made her Grand Ole Opry debut at 10, played Carnegie Hall at 12, and signed her first record deal at 13. She has since gone on to become the first woman to win IBMA Mandolinist of the year (3x in a row), be nominated for a Grammy, perform with Garth Brooks, Indigo Girls, and Allison Krauss and Gillian Welch, and perform at the White House. We chat with Sierra about growing up learning on stage with people 3x her age, the contrast of then studying at Berklee on a full scholarship, to using disappointments as fuel, the power of seeing women represented on album covers and in the press, and a whole lot more. by The Other 22 Hours

58 min listen

Devon Gilfillian on freedom in routine, machine building, and meatballs.: Devon Gilfillian has released records on both Capital and Fantasy Records, played on Colbert and Kimmel, and opened for The Brothers Osborne, My Morning Jacket, Mavis Staples, Gladys Knight and more. We chat with him about how routine can create freedom in your life, the importance of physical wellbeing both on the road and at home, building a machine that can provide for your people, using your platform and voice as an artist, and all points in between. by The Other 22 Hours

49 min listen

Margo Price + Jeremy Ivey on balancing approaches, knowing your roll, and orange soda.: Margo Price and Jeremy Ivey are both artists, songwriters, and are married with kids. They've released records on Loma Vista, Anti-, Third Man and independently, and under Margo's project have been nominated for a Grammy, played SNL, won awards, and more. We talk about balancing the many rolls in their lives, both together and independently, creating together while also parenting together, going from having a band together (Buffalo Clover) to 'separate' careers, and so many metaphors from table settings to orange soda. by The Other 22 Hours

60 min listen

Mary Chapin Carpenter on owning the process, personalizing mistreatment, and weathering rejection.: Mary Chapin Carpenter is an 18x Grammy nominated, 5x Grammy winning, 6x platinum-selling singer-songwriter with over 16 albums and decades of touring so far in her career. We talk with Mary Chapin about her songwriting process, including her need for solitude and her practice of "song walking," we talk about how she still faces rejection even with all of her accolades and commercial success, how common and easy it is to personalize mistreatment from people in power (and how to combat that), and much more on this very candid final episode of Season 1. by The Other 22 Hours

49 min listen

Glen Phillips (Toad the Wet Sprocket) on the joy of play, post-platinum economics, and creating in community.: Glen Phillips, lead singer of Toad the Wet Sprocket as well as a solo artist, has released 7 records with the band - 2 of which are multiplatinum - and 7 solo albums, spanning a career that started 37 years ago when Glen was just 15 years old. We talk about creating, and navigating the industry as both an active platinum-selling band, after the break-up, and now as the band has reformed, focusing and prioritizing the sheer joy of creating, how community can inspire and inform your creativity, and more. by The Other 22 Hours

56 min listen

Laura Veirs on staying aware, planning a sabbatical year, and life in the tortoise lane.: Laura Veirs is a prolific singer-songwriter with over 14 albums released on her own label as well as Nonesuch Records and Bella Union, is a member of case/lang/veirs (w/ Niko Case & kd lang) and is a painter, (brief) podcast host, and author of a children's book on Elizabeth Cotton. We talk about staying aware of the beauty and joy that surrounds you, planning (and taking) a sabbatical year as a self-employed creative, ceding control of your social media accounts, stage fright, running your own international label, maintaining ownership of your rights, being a tortoise surrounded by hares, and much more. by The Other 22 Hours

44 min listen

Gretchen Peters on recalibrating your definition of success, strength in artistry, and bucking industry expectations.: Gretchen Peters is a Grammy-nominated, CMA Song of the Year winning member of the Songwriters Hall of Fame, who had an extensive touring, has released 14 albums (mostly on her own label), and had songs recorded by the likes of Etta James, Martina McBride, George Strait, Patty Loveless, Shania Twain, Neil Diamond, Trisha Yearwood, and Bryan Adams, just to name a few. This episode jumps right in with Gretchen's decision, and the public (and private) reactions, to retire from touring, and we go on to talk about the powerful effects of recalibrating your definition of success, bucking industry expectations in the name of your creativity and artistry, the strength of artists, and so much more. by The Other 22 Hours

60 min listen

Robert Ellis on present consciousness, getting back to having fun, and perceptions.: Robert Ellis is a singer-songwriter, producer, and multi-instrumentalist who has put out 6 albums both self-released and on New West Records, and having worked on records by Jamestown Revival, White Denim, Khruangbin, Nicole Atkins and others. We chat about the many benefits of mindfulness and being in the present moment, using adversity and tough times to return to having fun creating, parenting and perceptions, sobriety, and just saying f*ck it let's try something new! by The Other 22 Hours

62 min listen

Samantha Crain on asking questions, self advocacy, and growing in a non-music city.: Samantha Crain has released 8 records, started touring at 19, eventually supporting artists such as The Avett Brothers, Neutral Milk Hotel, Brandi Carlile, Buffy Sainte-Marie, Gregory Alan Isakov, The Mountain Goats, and MANY others, as well as joining First Aid Kit for an appearance on 'Conan', and self-producing many of her own records, as well as records for other artists. We explore the power of asking questions, both as a way to learn more in craft and business and as a means of self-advocacy in business dealings, we talk about the positives and negatives of growing a substantial career in a non-music town (Norman, OK in her instance), the many benefits of a meditation practice, and much more in this wide-ranging conversation. by The Other 22 Hours

56 min listen

John Craigie on the art of storytelling, the optics fallacy, and horticulture.: John Craigie is a singer-songwriter based out of Portland OR but who spent years living on the road, has released 12+ albums, and toured with the likes of Jack Johnson, Gregory Alan Isakov, Shawn Colvin, Sean Hayes and more. Craigie is known for his engaging live show that weaves a hefty dose of storytelling - in the vein of Arlo Gutherie - as well as comedy between his songs, so we send a lot of time talking about the art of storytelling and it's place in a concert, comedy, how he sustains such an intense tour schedule, drawing inspiration from communities of other artists such as painters and architects, debunking the optics fallacy and how finding the right venue for your show is much more powerful. by The Other 22 Hours

45 min listen

Joe Henry on the creative stream, daily aesthetics, and the musicality of language.: Joe Henry is a songwriter, producer, and writer who has released over 15 solo records on labels such as A&M and Anti-, and has produced records for a long list of artists such as Bonnie Raitt, Elvis Costello, Solomon Burke, Allen Toussaint, Rodney Crowell, Aimee Mann, Ani Difranco, Teddy Thompson, John Doe, and more. We have a diverse conversation about keeping yourself in the creative stream, knowing when to step away, acceptance, and much surrounding the Tom Waits quote, "How you do anything is how you do everything." by The Other 22 Hours

67 min listen

John Doe on embracing your role, identifying ego, and butterfly nets.: John Doe is the co-founder and longtime member of the legendary LA punk band X, he's released numerous solo records, he stars in the recently released film DOA, as well as movies such as Boogie Nights, Roadhouse, Great Balls of Fire, and Brokedown Palace and TV shows such as Roswell, One Tree Hill and Law & Order, and is co-author of the book 'Under the Big Black Sun' with Tom DeSavia, chronicling the LA punk scene. Needless to say we talk about sustaining and foster a diverse set of creative endeavors, identifying ones own ego to make for smoother relationships, embracing your role as a creator and sticking to it, the creative pitfalls of major label deals, longevity, and quite a bit more. by The Other 22 Hours

49 min listen

David Wax Museum on artistic ecosystems, creating in partnership, and pollinators.: David Wax Museum is a critically-acclaimed indie folk band lead by husband/wife duo David Wax and Suz Slezak, who have been praised by NPR, Tiny Desk, the New York Times, Newport Folk, and even had a song featured at Pete Buttigieg's wedding. We talk about how they built and have grown a strong, enduring, grassroots community around their music that helps them remain independent, how and what they've learned about both creating and recharging together and separately as a couple, positive discoveries of the pandemic times that have reshaped their career, mental health and it's impact on their schedules, and creating entire artistic ecosystems. by The Other 22 Hours

53 min listen

Madame Gandhi on quieting self doubt, optimizing for joy, and sampling glaciers.: Madame Gandhi is an incredibly diverse guest: she is an award winning producer, composer, and drummer for M.I.A., a member of Forbes' 30 Under 30, has given several TED talks, has an MBA from Harvard and a Masters in Music Science & Tech from Stanford, and famously ran the 2015 London Marathon while menstruating freely to combat menstrual stigma. We talk about how she tackles both self doubt and imposter syndrome in her many creative endeavors, her concept of optimizing for joy in our passions to foster sustainability, post-show rituals, and so much more. by The Other 22 Hours

45 min listen

Dylan LeBlanc on magnetic intentions, second chances, and red hot frying pans.: Dylan LeBlanc has released records on Rough Trade Records, ATO, and Single Lock records, and has toured with Lucinda Williams, Bruce Springsteen, First Aid Kit and more. We talk about how having a big first record at a young age effected his headspace, career, and life, navigating many tough ups and downs since then, sobriety and intentions, and Michaela and Dylan discuss the (drastically different) reactions of each of their teams when they told them they were expecting their first children. by The Other 22 Hours

55 min listen

The Watson Twins on touring sustainably, collaboration vs individualization, and van pillows.: The Watson Twins have released multiple records, including their latest 'Holler' produced by Butch Walker, as well as being featured on Jenny Lewis' Rabbit Fur Coat and recording/touring with the likes of Kings of Leon, Foster the People, The Shins, Harry Connick Jr, Willie Nelson, and Jenny Lewis. We go deep on sustainable and enduring touring practices and logistics that they've both observed as sidewomen, and developed themselves as bandleaders, as well collaboration vs individualization and using your talents and skillsets developed in the music industry to launch other businesses (they own and run three event spaces in Nashville). by The Other 22 Hours

56 min listen

Paris Carney on finding your unique outlet, creating for others, and family bands.: Paris Carney is a songwriter who has had cuts with the likes of Nick Jonas, King, Adam Lambert, Maggie Lindemann, and Joseph, as well as a background singer with The Jonas Brothers, Hailee Stanfield, Lykke Li. We talk about her start on Interscope Records with her brothers' band Carney, the ups and downs of years trying to find her unique path, creative diversification, and having a variety of mental health practices in your toolkit. by The Other 22 Hours

49 min listen

William Prince on joyful presence, intergenerational trauma, and humor.: William Prince is from the Peguis First Nation - in what is now Manitoba Canada - and a Juno and Canadian Folk Award winning singer-songwriter, who has toured with Neil Young, and Yola, and worked with producer Dave Cobb. We talk about the experience and realities of his people, the generational trauma that is present, how that effects and informs his art and his creativity, and how he sees his role in his community as a public figure, and father. by The Other 22 Hours

51 min listen

Ezinma on viral moments, continually educating, and scuba diving.: Ezinma is a violinist, artist, film composer, and educator who became a viral sensation from her performance videos, has released records on Universal Records, performed with Beyonce, Stevie Wonder, Kendrick Lamar, Khalid, Joshua Bell and Yo Yo Ma to name a few, composed the score for numerous films, and founded a non-profit that brings classical music education to underserved communities. We talk about how having viral moments changed and challenged her creativity, how she grew from that as a person and an artist, her lifelong pursuit of educating herself (she has multiple masters degrees) as well as being an educator herself, the power of music education, and it goes on. by The Other 22 Hours

50 min listen

Duquette Johnston on incarcerated creativity, human design, and scents.: Duquette Johnston was a member of 90s rock band Verbana, touring with the Foo Fighters and releasing records on Merge and Setanta Records, has released a handful of solo records on labels such as Single Lock Records, owns the clothing and goods shop Club Duquette in Birmingham AL, and also spent time in Etowah County jail. We talk about how that incarceration changed his creative process, his entire outlook on his career, and also launched his solo career, as well as his interest in human design, and quest for human connection through music. by The Other 22 Hours

65 min listen

Jamie Kent on community impact, legislation, plus a live Q&A.: This is a special live episode taped on stage at Mile of Music Festival in Appleton, WI featuring Jamie Kent - a Billboard charting singer songwriter, entrepreneur, arts advocate, and co-founder of Musicians for a Smoke Free Tennessee, where he worked as a lobbyist to usher through legislation that allows municipalities in TN to ban smoking in public places (such as bars and music venues). We talk about legislative action to aid musicians, coalition building as it relates to making an impact as well as a music career, and then we also take time for all three of us to answer questions from the audience in a really special first-time Q&A session. by The Other 22 Hours

53 min listen

The Wood Brothers on the illusion of control, enjoyment, and remembering to remember.: The Wood Brothers are a Grammy-nominated band that have released 12 records on labels such as Blue Note, Southern Ground, Easy Eye Sound, and their own imprint. We have a wide ranging conversation on mental well-being and sustaining a decades-long career, all circling around mindfulness, presence, the illusion of control, and what Chris aptly points out - remembering to remember. by The Other 22 Hours

60 min listen

Mary Gauthier on patience in art, persistence in business, and losing with John Prine.: Mary Gauthier is a Grammy-nominated songwriter and author, who's songs have been recorded by everyone from Tim McGraw and Blake Shelton, to Boy George and Jimmy Buffett. We talk about sobriety, how owning and running restaurants has influenced her music career, writing with veterans, battling homophobia, and so much more, all with a wise dose of patience, and persistence. by The Other 22 Hours

49 min listen

Katie Pruitt on patience, emotional language, and archery.: Katie Pruitt is a singer-songwriter on Rounder Records, NPR & NY Times acclaimed, americana award-nominated, and also the host of The Recovering Catholic podcast. We talk about how she navigated, learned, and grew from releasing her much anticipated debut record 1 month before the pandemic started, navigating the pressure to always have output, and the tools she uses to be able to explore heavy personal and emotional topics in her songs. by The Other 22 Hours

48 min listen

Kaia Kater on the power of shared experiences, speaking out in integrity, and grants.: Kaia Kater is a Juno and Polaris prize-nominated songwriter from Canada, who also won a Canadian Screen Award for Best Original Song in the BET series 'The Porter'. We talk about how a government-support grant system for the arts effects creativity, the importance of speaking out in integrity, the power in finding communities with shared experiences, and owning vulnerability. by The Other 22 Hours

55 min listen

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