Admiral James Stavridis, former Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, and Elliot Ackerman, a five-tour Marine combat veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan, both had successful second careers as writers. When they teamed up to write novels meditating on an uncertain future, first with 2034 and now with 2054, they lit up the bestseller charts. Pulling back the curtain on their latest collaboration, Stavridis and Ackerman join us to decode the looming shadow of artificial intelligence, and their writing process. https://www.ice.com/insights/conversations/inside-the-ice-house