Jeff Lloyd and John Kosko sit down for what's been a wild few days in Cleveland. John Dorsey out as this front office has decided to listen to the "Nerds". A GM can't do everything and hope to succeed, John's now learned this lesson twice. Freddie was in way over his head, and afraid to reach out let his own short comings become his downfall. This roster other than 4 stars all played worse in '19 than in '18. That's on a Coaching staff, it's also on the GM who brought in said players. #Browns #BakerMayfield #NickChubb #JarvisLandry #MylesGarrett #JoeSchobert #DenzelWard Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices