Chris covered Joe Barry in Washington when Barry was the DC and Russell insists Barry is a terrific hire for the Packers not just for his energy and passion, but his quality as a person. We discuss his evolution as a coach, why that situation didn't work out, and what Sean McVay saw in Barry to bring him to LA. Plus, we open the show with a discussion about Green Bay's approach to the offseason, in particular the draft. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices