In this episode, have James Hadley, CEO of Immersive Labs, and we talk about the best ways to learn in cybersecurity. 
James starts the show with his background and what he is doing today, which is Immersive Labs.  But, he spent a lot of time in different organizations prior to that.  
When it came to education, James found he had quite a poor memory, so he would always learn better through doing things rather than reading about things. Things would go in one ear and out the other.
In addition to learning styles, they all discuss measuring education.  When it comes to measuring academics, for James it is all about the outcomes you want people to achieve. 
They all agree that storytelling is incredibly powerful.  James shares a few of his own drawing back on his incredible journey.  And, of course, they round out the show with how to stay in touch and up to date with James.
 
Key Takeaways:
1:02 Welcome back
2:24 James’ background
5:06 Education experience
5:46 Changes
7:18 Measuring education
9:14 Balancing in testing
11:40 Biggest a’ha
13:14 Feedback
15:54 Learner vs. learner
17:37 Skill behind catching the bad guys
19:20 Applying knowledge
21:53 Geeks in the basement
23:47 The best job in cyber
26:30 Advice
27:58 How to stay in touch with James
 
Links:
James on Immersive Labs
James on LinkedIn
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